Uh oh….those words in this kind of situation never lead to anything good…
The You know what would make me happ? said when someone is as emotionally upset as Frank is never followed by something good happebing…
I cross my fingers Frank will say ‘cookies!’ in the next panel. Fat chance though :S
Ow. Everything about this hurts.
This hurts to read and yet I come back three times a week for my dose of pain. 😛 Even though Frank is hurt, upset, feels trapped, whatnot, I still think he’s crossing a line. Lee has been nothing but supportive and loving. I sense a breakup coming.
Yeah —I understand why Frank is mad (and that he’s going through a lot) but I still think he is way out of line. Lee has been helping a lot and it’s not fair to dump all of your emotional buildup on him for saying one (very misguided) thing. : / I’m starting to feel that the boys are too mismatched to be together happily. You don’t want things to play out like this whenever the going gets rough..
Honestly, I have always had the feeling that the relationship was pretty one sided, and while I believe Frank likes Lee, he was never in love so much as in like with him. Now, Frank could be that way because he has purposely held back from letting himself get too involved, but it just seems he’s never really committed to the idea of him and Lee as a long term concept
As much as I don’t like to read this, your words are striking quite a sensitive nerve…
I’ve been reading it the same way. Which is sad, but I’d actually be into it if the story ended with them realizing that they’re better as friends and going their separate ways, romantically speaking. That doesn’t seem to happen that often in romantic stories, and it’d be nice to have more narratives where breaking up is healthy and normal and not the end of the world… : )
Doesn’t look like it is NOT gonna be the end of Lee’s world, though… (Oops, double negative here, sorry…)
I’m pretty damn sure Frank’s really in love with Lee. It’s just that he has a LOT on his mind right now, and is so full with all the crap that’s been happening that he doesn’t have the energy to deal with anything else right now. Plus, can you really blame him for not believing it. It does sound like it’s just a fantasy – would you actually believe someone who says they can talk to cats and have a wish they can use? Non of this is taking away from his feelings for Lee, but he doesn’t have the emotional strength to deal with anything right now.
I’m not even just referring to this episode. Go back and read the comic from the beginning. Right from the start, Frank was doubtful of a relationship with Lee, his primary thoughts has always been about the farm, about his obligation to the family. As Sam said, Frank has an odd relationship with their father, he is desperate to please him. Frank has never allowed himself to view a serious, long term relationship with Lee as a realistic future.
I get what you mean, but that doesn’t have to have anything to do with his feelings for him. There are a lot of reasons for him to doubt the relationship, but I don’t think his love is one of them. “Is he right for me?” is something else than “do I really love him?”. Especially since taking over a farm is much more than a job, and he know Lee has different plans and needs for the future. I don’t think Frank would have taken the chance with their relationship if he didn’t love Lee.
Honestly, I don’t think what Lee suggested was so bad. He was offering Frank an out. Teenagers are not supposed to be responsible for their whole family. The father can sell the farm and use that money to live on until he’s back on his feet. He can then get a job as a farm manager somewhere else. It’s completely unfair that any of this is on Frank. Besides, I still feel like his father was telling him it was ok to make his own decisions and just that he didn’t regret his own life decisions. I don’t feel like the father was telling him he had to run the farm.
I love my family, but I’d be on the next flight to NYC if I was Frank. I’d help them how I could and not worry about all the rest. And if I was Lee, I would have walked out as soon as Frank raised his voice. When he wanted to talk in a more calm way, he could call me.
I have to respectfully disagree here… it’s really, really hard to just say, “Oh, I’m just going to leave my family behind when my father has had a stroke, my family is suffering, and I am capable of running the farm.” I don’t think it’s as easy for them as selling the farm and then finding a new job, especially since Frank’s dad may never recover fully from the stroke. Frank would feel immeasurable guilt if he left at this point…
Also, living in NYC is bloody expensive. I’d find it hard to believe Frank could justify the expense to himself when that money could be going towards supporting his family.
As someone who became the family breadwinner when my mom lost her job some years ago, my heart goes out to Frank here. It feels so awful in your gut to leave your family like that, especially when they are depending on you… and someone offering you an “out” like that feels like… it doesn’t feel like an out, so much as it feels like you’re abandoning your family in their time of need.
Just my two cents.
I’m from NY, though out in the boonies. 😉 All of it’s expensive, which is why I’m in the south now. I grew up in a pretty poor family with four other siblings. While I didn’t have to financally support my family, I had a lot of other responsibilities. I took care of my younger siblings, I cleaned, I cooked, I ironed shirts. It was a maybe once a year occurance I was allowed to go to a friend’s house and they could never come over mine. I wore hand me downs and went hungry a lot. I got my first job at 17 and used the money to buy my siblings nicer clothes to wear and get some fresh fruit and veggies in the house. At 20 I realized my life was going nowhere fast and joined the military. It hurt a lot to leave my siblings, but sometimes you have to make a life of your own. My parents are doing just fine now and I’m happy with my own family.
Anyway, I could go on and on. My point is it’s the parent’s responsibility to take care of the kids and find a solution to the problem, not place the burden on the kid. The when the parents are old, the adult kids can pay them back by taking care of them. That would be the way life would work in my fantasy world anyway. I’ve struggled in my adult life, been dirt poor, not been able to pay bills, but my husband and myself have always worked it out on our own, not by asking our parents to help. So, the opposite should apply.
I’m definitely rambling by now because I’m tired, but I hope I made some sense. I do think it’s very generous of kids who help their families. I might do it for a while, but I wouldn’t put my whole life aside for someone else’s dream.
I do agree, and that’s why I said “misguided” rather than necessarily “bad” or “wrong” — both characters have a point here (good writing!) and neither is handling the discussion in an adult way (which makes sense.) I’m strongly against the way Frank is acting, but I can relate to him — having had to work to help my family from an early age, and been in situations when I had a lot of stress and responsibility, and well-meaning friends who were much more carefree and Just Didn’t Get It. So even though Frank has the right to live his own life, it’s a difficult decision and certainly galling when other people make it sound easy.
But it is absolutely not okay for him to yell like that. As someone who has also been in an unfortunately large number of emotionally abusive yelling situations, I am really mad at Frank right now. : C And he’s fictional!
I babbled on to Foody already, so I’ll keep it short. I do sympathise with Frank. I think he’s between a rock and a hard place. It just frustrates me when anyone so young is put in that situation. Even characters in a well written comic. 😉 But, what got to me the most is how Frank is treating Lee. So, yeah, I’m unhappy with Frank too.
Frank is a second generation Japanese-American, though and that’s kind of a big deal. There’s a huge amount of duty to family that accompanies that. As Nisei, it’s completely natural that he would sacrifice anything and everything to preserve his family–they are his ultimate duty. Until he has a family of his own, his parents and siblings must be his first priority.
Very good point.
So. That’s out there, now.
And speaking of cats, that’s one that you can’t put back in the bag.
WoW! It’s my first time to comment, but i can’t stay silent anymore. Frank, what the hell are you doing? Ok, i know he is upset and hurt. But that doesen’t mean you can do what ever you want to the person you love… That is so wrong! *sad*
Lee’s face is so heartbreaking.
So much emotion over the last fews pages and it looks like more to come.
Beautifully drawn. The expressions perfect for the scene.
Oh god, I always thought Frank believed in what Lee said…Though, while I do feel that Lee was being extremely oblivious to the point of inconsideration, Franks comment on Lee’s supposed ‘fantasy’ is downright awful…But then again, it sure is interesting. After all, what if Lee really is just imagining the cats talking as a way of coping with life?
Will this comic be retitled “Prince of Weirdoes”? “Prince of Deflections”?
I sort of expect Lee to descend into a life of sexual debauchery and licentiousness when he realizes his current coping mechanism to be inadequate. I’d put my money on the new title ‘Prince of Pussy’.
Uh-oh. Why do I have the feeling Frank is going to say something he’ll truly regret later. I mean, regret even more than what he’s just done to Lee. And I agree with Kat, he’s crossing a line.
I can see the basic direction Frank’s pushing Lee into, what I’m worried about is if Frank says something drastic, Lee uses his wish to make it come true and Frank’s regretting it from then on. ‘I wish you would just grow up Lee!’
That could turn into a Lee that Frank has no interest in… or Worse.
Is there a swear jar in the Murakami kitchen? That Shut up calls for a quarter!
Oh my God‼ indeed, Frank‼ Since when have you discarded your bird-scissors necklace?
That might be harsh, but Lee too managed to say the wrong thing (“I know you have great problems, but let’s run and ditch your family in the middle of this crisis”)
Something bitched this way comes
Holy cats! I thought this comic was all love and sweetness and real angst was nowhere in sight. Whooo boy it took a while but it was worth it!
BRING ON THE DRAMA
-just sits in a glass case of EMOTION!- ;3;
nonoNONO FRANK ITS REAL DOH WHYYYYY *strong feels*
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